We're on a roll here at The Beerhive so, naturally, we've roped in two national treasures - Patrick Gower & Kelly Ryan - for the latest episode.
The two are greats of their respective professions - brewing and journalism - and also both happen to be good ol' Taranaki boys.
They went to the same high school, know all the same people and remain friends today.
Kelly has honed his craft to be one of New Zealand's top brewers, churning out an unbelievable array of beers at Wellington's Fork and Brewer.
Paddy has just stepped away from a decade in the press gallery to become Newshub's roaming national correspondent, covering everything from illegally dumped 1080 on Stewart Island to Gloriavale.
Over some 9% 'Game of Cones' (at Paddy's insistence) we cover everything from Kelly's legendary boxing father to why Paddy had to give up politics before it destroyed his life.
There's also some details on his upcoming cannabis documentary and he signs off with a warning to Judith Collins...
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